- Jon stumbles on the difference between highly organized modern religions, and older animistic ones: “[The southrons] had their septons to talk to, someone to tell them the gods’ will and help sort out right from wrong.”
- It’s interesting that black clothing functions like an orange or striped prison uniform. I find it hard to believe that “any bit” of black clothing would automatically mark a man as a deserter, though. After all, there are houses whose colors include black (including northern houses like the Karstarks).
- Old Nan strikes yet again.
- “He was after all his father’s son, and Robb’s brother.” Or not.
- Jon romanticizes suicide, just like Sansa.
- How do the watchmen pay the Mole’s Town prostitutes? Since they (at least the ones that aren’t more-equal-than-others highborn volunteers) aren’t allowed to have contact with their families and are supplied with all their own needs, they’d have no need for a salary. Maybe barter with the produce of hunting or handicrafts?
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AGoT Jon 9
AGoT Jon 5
Here the after school special about how character building it is for the popular, athletic kid to befriend the fat kid continues. (The couplet “We did all we could”/ “All we could wasn’t enough” could have come straight from Degrassi: The Next Generation.) And the exposition around the roles of rangers, builders, etc. is a bit clunky. Still, Jon shows believable leadership potential here, and his steadfast but calm reaction to suggestions that Benjen is dead forms yet another great contrast with Robb.
AGoT Bran 5
Once again, two year old horses are rarely ridden except in a modern racing or (very recently) show context, and generally would not be considered safe to ride by a small child, let alone a disabled small child still acclimatizing to his disability. Nice to see Robb riding a gelding instead of stallion, though (stallions are relatively impractical mounts, and the number of them encountered in many fantasy novels is quite unrealistic).
- WiC #7.
- Robb is now adopting the hippie look.
- Old Nan says (again): “Dark wings, dark words.”
- Bran tells another story of Jon’s overcompensating generosity: he once gave Bran his fish when Bran failed to catch one.
- Introducing Osha, an alternate model of womanhood: a head taller than Robb (who is himself described as tall), lean, hardened, “scarcely … like a woman,” a reasonable match for Robb in battle, and happy to talk back to the man she’s with when he gives nonsensical orders.
- Robb is getting a little more nuanced: he restrains himself when his rash actions could endanger Bran, controls his anger at Theon and is “relieved” to be given an excuse not to kill Osha. (Has Robb ever killed anybody at this point? Probably not.)
AGoT Jon 4
Meet Sam Tarly: “the fattest boy [Jon] had ever seen,” weighing “twenty stone” — that would be 160 to 320 pounds, 280 by the most common definition of “stone.” Here fat is associated with cowardice and (once again) with effeminacy, but there’s no hint of schemey-ness (fat as disguise) or fallen-ness (fat as outward sign of a decline in morality or dignity).
I find it hard to believe that even Thorne would disallow Sam’s armor because it wasn’t black (leather and wool can be dyed and wood painted, after all), and even harder to believe that he would encourage the boys to break a helmet just to humiliate Sam. Possessions were not cheap or disposable in such times; that broken helmet would take a lot of Noye’s time to fix or recycle.
In Jon’s dream: “I scream that I’m not a Stark, that this isn’t my place.” And later: “he had never truly been one of them [the Starks].”
First mention of blue-lipped Qartheen warlocks — being hired by Randyll Tarly(!). Who is a tool, but a very evocatively described one. In Sam’s story, he expresses his disapproval to his son while skinning a deer: the ultimate source of the Tywin-introducing scene in the TV show?
Overall, this chapter is a bit too after-school special: in a very brief span of pages, we move from Sam as “accidental” hazing death waiting to happen, to his “fitting in” and becoming one of the guys due to Jon’s heroic principles. Jon’s use of force to achieve his goal does lend a little moral complexity, though (and perhaps foreshadows his later attempt at autocratic leadership).
AGoT Jon 3, in which Jon’s consciousness of his own privelege is raised
…but only after feeling betrayed by his father, fantasizing his uncle’s death, and mooning after his “true brothers” (or are they cousins?). His life has already taught him, though, that it’s “better not to speak of the things [he] want[s].”
Other stuff I noticed in this chapter:
- Casual sexism: one of the recruits is “weak as a girl.” There’s also another contemptuous dismissal of wet nurse wisdom, this time by Donal Noye.
- Famous last words: Benjen’s “we’ll speak when I return.”
- Donal Noye used to work for Stannis. Interesting.
- The wall is 700 feet high — a little taller than the Gateway Arch, but only about half the height of the Willis (Sears) Tower.
- Jon is now fifteen.
- Jeor Mormont is described as “a gruff old man with an immense” (?!) “bald head.” Cue the corn-requesting raven, calling directly back to the preceding Bran chapter. (It wants Jon to live, too.)
- Jon and Tyrion have great buddy chemistry.
AGoT Tyrion 2: no grumkin, all snark
Tyrion calls Jon “remarkably polite for a bastard.” I’d say he’s remarkably polite because he’s a bastard. Either way, Tyrion manages to break Jon’s cool for the first time in the book, by stating what he believes to be the unromantic truth about the Night’s Watch: that they’re a bunch of criminals (true) guarding the wall against imaginary foes (yeah, right, and–as Tyrion also says in this chapter–“there are no dragons.” But “life is full of these little ironies.”)
Tyrion also reflects that Jon’s unknown mother “had left little of herself in her son.” We’ll see.
Other fun facts about Tyrion we learn in this chapter: he is a pyro(!), has homicidal fantasies about his immediate family, and has difficulty walking (less than a hundred pages after doing a handspring/somersault).
Finally, #love this line:
The Lannisters never declined, graciously or otherwise. The Lannisters took what was offered.
Bonus: in this chapter we meet Yoren: “stooped and sinister” and unwashed, with matted and lice-filled black hair and beard and a twisted shoulder.
AGoT Eddard 2: what we know about the past, so far
(Originally the R+L=J evidence thread, now expanded to include the Robert’s rebellion historical morass that surrounds it)
About Lyanna:
- She died of bleeding and/or fever (AGoT Eddard 1)
- She extracted a promise from Eddard just before her death, implied to be a promise that he see her buried in the Winterfell crypt (AGoT Eddard 1)
- Robert believes she was raped “hundreds” of times by Rhaegar (AGoT Eddard 2)
About Jon Snow’s parentage:
- Ned will not name Jon’s mother (AGoT Catelyn 2)
- Winterfell servants once spread rumours that Jon’s mother is Ashara Dayne. Ned was not thrilled with this and silenced the servants (AGoT Catelyn 2)
- Ned told Catelyn not to ask about Jon, and called Jon his “blood” (AGoT Catelyn 2)
- Robert believes Jon’s mother is a commoner named Wylla (AGoT Eddard 2)
- Ned says of Wylla, “I dishonored myself and I dishonored Catelyn” (AGoT Eddard 2) [Now that is interesting, assuming you don’t believe Jon is the biological son of Ned and Wylla. Is lying about Jon’s true parentage (rather than anything to do with Wylla) the “dishonor” Ned is really talking about? It’s a bit of a stretch to see that lie as dishonoring Catelyn. Or did Ned in fact sleep with Wylla, thus giving Ned’s statement the same sort of grain of truth as “he is my blood”?]
About Robert’s rebellion:
- Aerys did something “unspeakable” to Ned’s father and brother, which led to at least the father’s death (AGoT Eddard 2)
- The Lannisters did not take sides until late in the game (AGoT Eddard 2)
- After taking Robert’s side, Tywin took possession of King’s Landing by pretending to be allied with Aerys (AGoT Eddard 2)
- Tywin presented Robert with the corpses of Aerys’ wife and children. Robert’s uncritical acceptance of this caused a brief schism between him and Ned (AGoT Eddard 2)
- Jaime, who was seventeen, killed Aerys, then briefly sat on his throne and behaved in a flippant manner(AGoT Eddard 2)
AGoT Jon 2: Catelyn’s most unflattering moment
The famous “It should have been you” scene. The “stupid decisions” Catelyn haters rant on about (e.g., abducting Tyrion) are mostly not that stupid when considered in context (certainly no stupider than many of Ned’s). But Catelyn’s behavior toward Jon really is hard to excuse.
In response, Jon continues his record of hiding his negative feelings, “[forcing] himself to smile” in the face of Robb’s inane comments about the Night’s Watch (as if the shift to an all-black were the biggest life change Jon had coming), and telling Robb that Catelyn was “very kind” to him. (Meanwhile, Robb is now “shouting commands with the best of them” and “seems to have grown” in the face of hardship — though not enough to prevent him from deluding himself that this assessment of Catelyn as true, when the fact that he asked Jon about Catelyn’s behavior to begin with shows that he knows, deep down, it isn’t.)
As before, Jon does let the mask slip a bit when he’s with Arya, defying authority by giving her a sword (how did he get Mikken to make it? by saying he wanted it for himself?) and encouraging her to hide it from Septa Mordane and Sansa. (As a bonus, we learn in this scene that Westerosi women, or at least the ones Jon and Arya are familiar with, don’t shave their legs.)
Finally, a bit of potential, still-unfulfilled foreshadowing: “Different roads [Jon’s and Arya’s] sometimes lead to the same castle. Who knows?”