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AGoT Tyrion 6

  • Note how Tyrion pins the mountain clans’ ineffectiveness on their relatively democratic (not to mention relatively gender equitable) social organization.
  • A two-foot-long unicorn horn on one’s helmet would probably wreak havoc with one’s balance.
  • We meet Tywin: a tall, physically fit older man, with a shaved head except for the sideburns.
    Kevan is similarly large, but portly and balding: Tywin had he let himself go?
  • “May they take fifty more.” Love it.
  • People with the right idea in this chapter: Kevan (doesn’t want to take Robb’s bait) and Chella (alone of the clan chiefs, realizes they need to keep Tyrion hostage).

AGoT Catelyn 6

“Sometimes [Catelyn] felt as though her heart had turned to stone.” Yuk, yuk.

Seriously though, in paying more attention to Catelyn on this reread, I find that her monomaniacal focus on her goal (which is protecting her children … or protecting her own self-concept as the perfect noble mother?) is much more destructive than I had realized on past readings. She undermines her oldest son, ignores her youngest, and even her exaggerated grief over the comatose Bran seems more about her than him (after all, he’s not conscious to observe or benefit from her behavior). Her attitude toward Jon is deplorable, but understandable — but this chapter’s transfer of those feelings to Mya Stone, a stranger who has nothing to do with her marriage, is plain pathological. She kidnaps a member of a major house on the “evidence” of a story that is easily hole-poked by anyone aware of court social dynamics, from a source who she seems to be at least marginally aware is untrustworthy; persists in taking her prisoner to a place she has never visited (a fact I realized only on rereading this chapter), even after discovering that most of her party is likely to die on the journey (I’m sure all her father’s bannerman whose men she commandeered will love that); and when indeed they are killed, she pushes away what feelings of guilt or self-doubt she has. Sansa doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Elsewhere in this chapter:

  • We meet Brynden: weathered, gray-haired, and good-humored with a “hoarse, smoky voice.”
  • Tyrion remarks that Tywin is “the soul of avarice” (as Jaime is of arrogance and Cersei of power-lust), but I’ve never really seen monetary greed as Tywin’s primary motivation.
  • WiC #6.
  • Catelyn thinks she is “becoming a Stark at last” — when actually she’s straying further from the Starks’ ancestral home and concerns, into games orchestrated by others.
  • I’m having dirty-minded fun imagining what “the topless towers of Valyria” look like.
  • Finally, we meet Lysa, like Robert an obese character who once wasn’t, and whose current obesity is serving as a symbol of current moral or psychological failings. She has long auburn hair, blue eyes and a small mouth. Her son Robert Arryn (henceforth to be referred to as Sweetrobin) is six, small for his age and sickly, with fine brown hair.

AGoT Eddard 2: what we know about the past, so far

(Originally the R+L=J evidence thread, now expanded to include the Robert’s rebellion historical morass that surrounds it)

About Lyanna:

  • She died of bleeding and/or fever (AGoT Eddard 1)
  • She extracted a promise from Eddard just before her death, implied to be a promise that he see her buried in the Winterfell crypt (AGoT Eddard 1)
  • Robert believes she was raped “hundreds” of times by Rhaegar (AGoT Eddard 2)

About Jon Snow’s parentage:

  • Ned will not name Jon’s mother (AGoT Catelyn 2)
  • Winterfell servants once spread rumours that Jon’s mother is Ashara Dayne. Ned was not thrilled with this and silenced the servants (AGoT Catelyn 2)
  • Ned told Catelyn not to ask about Jon, and called Jon his “blood” (AGoT Catelyn 2)
  • Robert believes Jon’s mother is a commoner named Wylla (AGoT Eddard 2)
  • Ned says of Wylla, “I dishonored myself and I dishonored Catelyn” (AGoT Eddard 2) [Now that is interesting, assuming you don’t believe Jon is the biological son of Ned and Wylla. Is lying about Jon’s true parentage (rather than anything to do with Wylla) the “dishonor” Ned is really talking about? It’s a bit of a stretch to see that lie as dishonoring Catelyn. Or did Ned in fact sleep with Wylla, thus giving Ned’s statement the same sort of grain of truth as “he is my blood”?]

About Robert’s rebellion:

  • Aerys did something “unspeakable” to Ned’s father and brother, which led to at least the father’s death (AGoT Eddard 2)
  • The Lannisters did not take sides until late in the game (AGoT Eddard 2)
  • After taking Robert’s side, Tywin took possession of King’s Landing by pretending to be allied with Aerys (AGoT Eddard 2)
  • Tywin presented Robert with the corpses of Aerys’ wife and children. Robert’s uncritical acceptance of this caused a brief schism between him and Ned (AGoT Eddard 2)
  • Jaime, who was seventeen, killed Aerys, then briefly sat on his throne and behaved in a flippant manner(AGoT Eddard 2)

AGoT Jon 1: what the Lannisters look like

Cersei is “as beautiful as men said.” She has long golden hair and emerald green eyes. Her smile looks fake to Jon (and GRRM implies it would look fake to any adult, by saying “even at fourteen” Jon can see through it — although it could just be Jon’s preternatural bastardly maturity, of which more later.)

Myrcella is “a wisp of a girl, not quite eight” with long golden curls.

Tommen is plump and has white-blond hair that is longer than Arya’s. We learned in Catelyn I that he is seven (which would make for some pretty close birth spacing between him and Myrcella — I almost feel sorry for Cersei).

Joffrey is twelve, taller than fourteen-year-old Robb who has himself been described as notably tall. He has long, thick blond curls, emerald green eyes, and pouty lips.

Jaime is “tall and golden, with flashing green eyes and a smile that cut like a knife.” And of course, Jon thinks he looks like a king should look. I use this, along with the image of Jaime sitting on Arys’s throne after assassinating him, is the basis for my “Jaime will end up King” theory. (No, I’m not serious, and am too lazy to try to come up with political/military circumstances that could allow this to happen — just having fun as a confirmed Jaime fanperson. Really, I think he’ll end up perishing in some form of suicide-by-cop while symbolically trying to do his job as Kingsgaurd by defending a king who he ironically doesn’t like or respect much, such as maybe Stannis. Hopefully not until very near the end of the series, and not until after strangling Cersei.)

Tyrion gets more description than any of the others:

“[H]alf his brother’s height … [with] stunted legs. His head [is] too large for his body, with a brute’s squashed-in face beneath a swollen shelf of brow. One green eye and one black one peered out from under a lank fall of hair so blond it seemed white.”

And of course, there is the final line of the chapter–“just for a moment, Tyrion Lannister stood tall as a king”–undermining my Jaime for King campaign before it even started.

Interestingly, both Tyrion and Tommen have white blond hair, while the rest are described as golden. Tommen’s biological parents are siblings, Tyrion’s (if we assume they’re exactly who they’re supposed to be) first cousins; it seems like the Lannisters may have a recessive white-blond gene floating around and these two got a double dose. Tommen’s white-blondness does undermine those who would use Tyrion’s white-blondness as evidence that he’s actually a Targaryen, unless they want to argue that Tommen is a Targaryen too. (I never liked that theory, if only because it makes Tyrion’s relationship with Tywin less artistically satisfying to me if Tywin’s not really his dad. Tywin doesn’t get a loophole for treating him badly, nor Tyrion a loophole for kinslaying.)